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upgrading group gear to raid gear

Information about gear drops and quests, including Epics; also gear checks.

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upgrading group gear to raid gear

Postby dohrian » Fri May 26, 2006 3:23 am

Hello fellows,

I just joined a raiding guild (), they farm Anguish, killed Vish and Draygun. I have only 1 group stuff (coming from family guild with 7 players, Les Barons). I seek advices on gear upgrade (I think TA is still best thing to get ?). I already read the nice thread about and I wonder if there are other things I need to know. My 2 weakest spots are BP and legs, but maybe they are not the first I need to upgrade.

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Postby siludorf » Fri May 26, 2006 3:59 am

A high end Cleric or Druid won't get 1 rounded by a 10k damage, one day shaman can say the same =/
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Postby Beafly » Fri May 26, 2006 10:05 am

Take a look at my chart. It may help you weigh your options.

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Postby Samanna » Fri May 26, 2006 10:13 am

Beafly, that's huge. Can I host it for you? I know I had earlier versions up for a while... dunno what happened there.
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Postby Beafly » Fri May 26, 2006 10:22 am

Please do Sam. I updated it some time ago, got a few comments and made some corrections. It still may not be 100% complete but it is damn close, and beats the hell out of darkwind or alla for evaluating shaman specific gear across all slots. I know it has made my life alot easier. When my guild starts into DoD in about 2 months I'll be updating it again for us.
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Postby Samanna » Fri May 26, 2006 10:27 am

Thanks!

Info for the Shaman > Gear > By Content >

I just updated the old page that had gotten lost with the menu revamp.

I was wondering why no DoD or PoR loots. :)
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Postby Scalia » Fri May 26, 2006 11:22 am

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Postby Brohg » Fri May 26, 2006 5:33 pm

Back to the OP - you've done really well for yourself so far. Just because some of your parts are weak-ish doesn't mean you should just take whatever trash is rotting. It's a strange perspective to try adopting, but imo, Platinum Dragonlinked Greaves are worse than, say, Leggings of the Fates (picking a relevant example). It's all about the set of gear they're in. Leggings of the Fates are the second best piece of gear in their no-raid set. Platinum Dragonlinked Greaves are the second worst in their raid set.

You have Quickening of Mithaniel, Conservation of Xegony, and a heal focus. I will personally attest (see [Magelo] below) that those focus effects are entirely sufficient for the raiding that your guild is doing if you back them up with good play. When you plan out how to spend your earned points, don't just look around at what's happening atm, but what's on the horizon for loots. Don't look too far past the horizon (he says, stretching the metaphor uncouthly), but be forward-thinking. The major weakness of your current profile is low low spell/dot shielding, and absent Stun Resists. You're about halfway there on avoidance. Your challenge will be fixing those mods without getting swept up and displacing key focus effects, or getting pressured into buying rot trash just because it has hp/mana.

Remember, *everything* has hp/mana. In much the same way that Wisdom and then Stamina and then Mana Regen became ignorable stats, hp/mana is that way for raid gear. No matter what piece you take at that level, it will all have 300ish of this & 300ish of that. Take range slot as an example: the only meaningful differences between Globe of Voltage, Totem of the Chimera, Eye of Rikkukin, Crystallized Glass Staff, Tainted Undershore Rock and Emblem of the Hive (there are three more choices if guild does MPG mastery raids still) are the mods and focus effects. They're all enormous hp/mana upgrades, so you just can't choose based on that.

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Postby dohrian » Tue May 30, 2006 11:11 am

Thanks to your advices, and to Beafly's nice spreadsheet, I selected about 10 nice upgrades (especially based on the focus). I won't be able to get them soon (I am trial member for 1 month, so can only bid on 2nd round, and so far saw only 1 item reach 2nd round). But I was already able to get CoA seal and my 2 anciens spells !

BTW Beafly I did not see epic 2 on your spreadsheet ?

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Postby Beafly » Tue May 30, 2006 11:35 am

Actually, none of the quest items are on the sheet. It doesn't have the tacvi range or the Yar ring either. I'll add these also.
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Postby Beafly » Tue May 30, 2006 2:42 pm

Ok, I've updated the chart with the GoD quests (neck/waist and range), Yar'Lir quest Ring, Epic 2.0, and all the missing Yar'Lir loots.



Please update your page Sam.

I'll also be starting the raid loot gathering for DoD/PoR thread this afternoon, all you high end raiders please pitch in as you see the loots go by. Thanks!
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