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[jdthomas]

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[jdthomas]

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[KantorZek]

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[jdthomas]

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[jdthomas]

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[jdthomas]

[Veril]

Why is a TA good? let me explain. Fight the bosses in Tacvi, they are perma rooted. after debuffs are in it can take 20+ casts to sinia and then 20+ casts slow the mob. That's 7K mana on just the slows.

several mobs in. Balance one, TA another, Balance 3rd etc.

Squeezed for spell slots for a particular encounter? then drop balance and rely on TA.

You might not run OOM ever, but a TA helps you stay at high mana so that you can respond with a larger mana pool when something does happen.

As for Balance. Most boss mob fight last a lot more then 90 seconds, the duration od balance. havng to recast it to keep that mob slowed - when it is resisted 5-10 times really slams your mana pool, and it's draining your time to try land it. Land balance, then spart spamming TA until you get a 6.5 min slow in.

Having a TA empowers a shaman and changes your gameplay by making more options availabel to you. A shaman without a TA is a lesser equipped shaman.

Jdthomas the reason YOU don't see the enormous difference between a ta equipped and non-ta equipped shaman is because YOU don't have one. All the shaman who DO have a TA are saying that it makes a differece. Why don't you assume that at least some of us have an idea about what we can and cannot do as a shaman. Stop insultint our intelligence and skill - because that is what you are doing

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[jdthomas]

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[Ungkor]

So many uninformed comments in this thread now its just too hard to even know where to begin responding hehe.

Basically, the facts are:

1. TA is invaluable.
2. Bandolier defeats the purpose of getting a primary slot upgrade.
3. Something needs to be done to address it.

Those are the three "for sure" things for a raiding shaman with a TA.
Number 3 is really the only thing that should be being debated in this thread.

If you disagree with 1 or 2, then you aren't raiding the content I am, nor faced with the primary slot upgrades I am, or, you don't realize how much better your class could be played with a TA. Can you survive and be effective without a TA? Sure. Would any of us with a TA want to? No.

The numbers don't lie in terms of stats, casting, mana, recast, etc.., trying to "prove" 1 or 2 as incorrect is really just a waste of thread space.

My opinion is focus on #3 or post on another thread. If you don't have a TA and think shaman are fine not having one, great. Sweet. This thread doesn't affect you at all. Those of us with one can just chill in here and talk about this "not important" item and it shouldn't concern you.

If you have a TA, and think Bandolier is ok, or think the TA isn't that great, I'm so sorry hehe. But thats fine also. Go ahead and post on another thread about why the TA blows or why the bandolier is uber, and have another debate about that aspect if you want.

This thread, if I'm not mistaken, is about #3. The title suggesting one possible way to solve the TA dilema. For those of us who consider it a problem.

[jdthomas]

I guess its just the way I really *want* to this to be. The idea that any amount of effort, skill and attention simply cannot overcome the limitation of simply not being lucky on a drop or a roll REALLY bothers me. Its a bad game mechanic. There are a lot of good players out there that will never see potime. I'm in time and it still bugs me.
Click roots probably dont compare well, i.e. most folks dont stay in ornate pants after they have access to better.

[Moontrei]

Just recently the last of our guild shaman (until the new app showed up) got his TA. The first comment he had the next day after looting it was...

"I can believe how amazing this is and its changed my whole play style."

You can argue all you want that not having a TA doesnt make you any less a shaman. I will agree with you that it doesnt. However having a TA changes how you play. You will never understand any of the comments that shaman with TA's make until you have one yourself.

[Brohg]

I'd like to throw in here that none of us think that shaman without clicky slow are bad shaman. We've all spent at least 65 levels and 200+AA as shaman without it, and we sure don't think that WE sucked then. Furthermore, I don't think our interest in addressing this should be seen as selfish, any more than the outcry over Nihil.

In the case of that spell , characters that were well past Sewers & Vxed (like, level 70s doing Anguish) had to go back and engage in bottom feeding in order to perform their core class functions. Observe, it's entirely within the realm of possibility to do Anguish or Tacvi with just Spell:Turgurs Insects. But mobs likely won't be getting slowed until halfway through their hp bars, healing requirements will skyrocket, people will probably die, and shaman won't be able to help, since they're entirely occupied with their slowing. In the case of certain boss mobs (Warden Hanvar, Tacvi trash, some other stuff), without click-slow or Nihil they wouldn't get slowed before dying at all unless someone "rolls a natural 20".

Shaman all have Nihil (Balance, duh) now, and recognise how much it has changed the way a shaman can play, what shaman can do. You weren't incompetent before, but god damn are you miles ahead now. The difference experienced from the day a clicky-slow item is looted is bigger than the difference between Turgur and Balance. The current crusade is to close the gap in capability between having Time's Antithesis and not having it, whether the not-having is based on never getting to loot a TA, or having (wanting) it bagged because you looted something with better stats/resists/hp/mana/mods/foci. The funny reversal is that the fight is starting with the haves instead of the have-nots. Also ironically, the 'nots' (in the person of jdthomas) are resisting it.