by Kumudil » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:16 am
I have seen Sting crits of over 16k, still I dont declare sting is 16k dps.
"It's better than Languid Bite in that far greater DPS spikes are possible, on the other hand Languid Bite doesn't take mana and is a constant known amount of DPS."
If a bites fight last about or less than 3 minutes for you and you will parse 5 sucessful bite fights with pack of aina and 5 with Languid bite you will come out, that with languid bite you dealt more damage to the mob. For me that makes Langud Bite for the better option for this kind of events.
All out for me is languid > pack.
Where does the 80 dps come from?
Lets start form theory:
Lets presume that its 150 dps when it procs for a duration of 10 sec. It has a chance to procc of 20%. Chaincasting Spear unfocused you can cast once per 6 seconds focused probably once every 4 seconds. Unfocused 5x6=30 seconds between proccs averange makes it 50 dps. 5x4 seconds = 20 seconds focused would be around 75 dps.
From the practical side: I parsed it on beta chaincasting nukes and doing nothing else. The parse ended around 79 dps.
That makes me state that this spell delivers a max. theoretic dps of 80. Because in reality you might want to do other stuff than just chainnuking/dotting, the manadrain remains but the dps goes down.
Now to be constructive some more, the best procc of Aina I had is here:
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:03 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 110 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:03 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 101 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:03 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 87 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:03 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 91 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:04 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 63 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:04 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 40 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:04 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 129 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:04 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 129 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:05 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 82 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:06 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 73 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:06 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 129 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:06 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 124 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:07 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 73 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:07 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 129 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:08 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 115 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:09 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 73 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:10 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 129 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:11 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 129 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:11 2008] Kumudil`s pet bashes Test Eighty Five for 36 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:13 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 59 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:13 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 82 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:13 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 129 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:13 2008] Kumudil`s pet bashes Test Eighty Five for 36 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:14 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 82 points of damage.
[Tue Oct 14 23:08:14 2008] Kumudil`s pet bites Test Eighty Five for 91 points of damage.
2321 dmg total = 232 dps for that proc, all pet AAs where taken, I had 3 flurrys in that proc.
now if we compare:
Severilous' Spear of Venom Rk. II
1: Decrease Hitpoints by 2431
Mana: 715
Casting Time: 4.2 Recast Time: 1.5 .. ca. 6 sec chaincasting
Unfocused: 405 dps for 3.2 DPM
Focused gestimate: 800 dps for 7.7 DPM ca. 40% critchance, ca 25% increase from poisonfocus, ca. 20% mana preserved between AAs and pres. focus
If Pack of Aina would have 50% proccchance it should procc every second nuke, chaincasting Spear we will be able to fire it every approx. second tic (atleast over long therms it will be 1 procc every 2 casts).
2321 total for 300 mana/tic = 600 mana per 2 tic
193 dps for 3.8 dpm
So if the Pack of Aina proccrate would get the proccrate changed to 50% we will have an "overdrive" dps half of the efficiency of the nukes (which for efficiency are worse than our dots) for an additional 193 dps. Changed that way, it will offer 100 dps more than languid bite for an 300 mana/tic manadrain, or around 200 dps when languid bite isn't up.
A proccchance of 100% would bring the efficiency about on par with the nukes, which likely wasn't the intension creating this spell.
Thats all based on groupfoci, for Raiders the efficiency will be worse, as they get better foci.
So if someone would like a constructive suggestion on this: set the proccchance of Pack of Aina to 50%.
The hight manadrain still would warrant, that it remains situational but for special situations i.e. the breakin to "holding the Fort" or similar, where you know beforhand, that soon you would like max burn dps for a relative short time, I will pull it out and use it.
Nothing near the burst of twincast, which ontop is manafree (the new spell of this expansion for the nuke dps).
But this I would felt like a shamanistic way of "overdrive" which would also find its uses. We are not the masters of burst dps.