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The Spirit Realm • View topic - Sting and Bite on same timer?
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Sting and Bite on same timer?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:19 pm
by Hnumros

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:22 pm
by Retron

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:23 pm
by WaringMcMarrin

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:30 pm
by Retron

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:31 pm
by Layya EQOracle

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:37 pm
by WaringMcMarrin

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:20 pm
by Layya EQOracle

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:53 pm
by Boromil Bearstruck

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:12 pm
by Siocnarf

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:27 pm
by dindaur

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:16 pm
by Brohg

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:14 pm
by Aristein

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:22 pm
by Finori
There are that have been made. Most of them are timer and shot buff box changes. But also changes to the slot 3 augments. Most of the shaman ones had their effect reduced.

But also had the recast time reduced to 2.25 sec :)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:27 pm
by Siocnarf

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:59 am
by Brohg

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:43 am
by Aristein

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:35 am
by Brohg

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:13 am
by Kianor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:47 am
by Kanamori Hitatomi

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:42 am
by Sowslow

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:48 am
by Veril

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:02 am
by Unmei

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:14 am
by Kanamori Hitatomi

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:40 am
by Kianor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:15 am
by Tordail

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:03 pm
by Unmei

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:28 pm
by Finori

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:31 pm
by Brohg

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:39 pm
by Kanamori Hitatomi

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:41 pm
by Fenier
You both fail at Druid casting patterns.

Assuming Storm Strike 3, and Quick Damage 3

Typical Casting pattern is

Torrential Hail
Winter's Blaze
Winter's Blaze
Torrential Hail

Etc

On any spell which scores a GoRM proc, Nature's Burning Wrath would be used as the following spell. Storm Strike would be used during the recast delay between spells.

This is typically the optimum pattern for sustained dps. This obviously breaks down on mobs which are immune to fire or ice, or when mezzing needs to occur, but this is best case.

As far as spell haste goes, going off Tier 4 Group Armor results in a 18% Detrimental Haste Focus, Quick Damage 3 results in a extra 10%, then you can add the 11% from Cleric Buffs if you so choose, resulting in a 28-39% Detrimental Haste total. With just the 28% this should result in about a 4.5 second cast time available to any group level Druid. Rains would cast in 2.52 seconds at 28% hasted (3.5 Base). NBW if used, would have a 2.16 cast time at 28% hasted.

Using Winter's Blaze RK II 3990 Damage in 7 Seconds (4.5 Cast + 2.5 Recast) results in a DPS value of 570. Raiders with better Detri haste can get higher then this. That DPS total does not include Focii. If you factor in 45% (22.5 average) Cold Focus (Druid Gloves) and Fire Focus (Druid Arms) You get 2629 Fire and 2259 Cold or 4888 Total at 4.5 Cast for a total DPS of 698.29 DPS with Crystallos Level Group Focii and Quick Damage 3. If the Druid debuffs we can increase those focus numbers by another 3, 5, or 7% depending on mob and rank of spell used.

The Rain RK II spell totals 5900 Damage, non cold focusable with after 28% haste a total run time of 14.5 seconds or a total DPS value of 407 DPS

If you want to discuss druid DPS those are the numbers you need to account for.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:43 pm
by Kanamori Hitatomi

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:45 pm
by Ughbash

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:48 pm
by Fenier

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:49 pm
by Fenier

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:51 pm
by Ughbash

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:51 pm
by Kanamori Hitatomi

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:00 pm
by Fenier

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:04 pm
by Unmei

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:06 pm
by Fenier

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:13 pm
by Kanamori Hitatomi