[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 488: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 696: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 696: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4751: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3886)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4753: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3886)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4754: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3886)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4755: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3886)
The Spirit Realm • View topic - Optimizing spellset swapping: debuff and DPS

Optimizing spellset swapping: debuff and DPS

Spell, Spell Quest, Aura, Totem and AA discussion.

Moderator: Shaman Mods

Optimizing spellset swapping: debuff and DPS

Postby Jaraman » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:13 pm

Could use a little feedback designing better spellsets to swap out during group battles. My goal is to find a swap strategy for maximum DPS and debuff effectivess. For me, this means, quick swaps, early debuffing, and max DPS for a typical 7-10 tic battle. I'd like to retain some crowd control abilites on hand as well.

Figure that quick heal, HOT, canni, and slow (BoD) will be perma-memmed. This leaves 5 spell gems to swap out, but I've found swapping out 5 spells at once to be too slow and not the best idea. A few, maybe 2, at a time seems the best balance.

For clickies, I have the TA and root pants. I will be making Philter of Major Negation potions for the 1.5s Nullify Magic clickies to be quick-cast from a hotkeyed inventory slot. I'm wondering if getting Pox pants will be worth it, both considering I'd be losing my prized root-pants and that the DPS from Pox prolly isn't worth it for quicker battles.

I'm thinking there will be 3 stages of swapping to do: Pre-battle, the debuff stage, and the DPS stage. I have single-spellsets for Idol of Malos, Panther, Malicious Decay, and Crippling Spasm (and gate). I typically work with 2 battle spellsets customized for the particular encounter, and it's second nature for me to type /mem m1, cast a few spells, then type /mem m2 (which swaps out 1-3 spells), then jump in and melee with panther on myself. Including 2 weapon procs and panther, I expect to contribute an average of ~3k damage per battle from shammy meleeing alone.

Ok, given this info, this is what I've worked out so far. Any criticism or suggestions are welcome. Possibilities include leaving Malos perma-memmed instead of using (-40) 'sinia; move Idol single mem to swap out with BoD instead of Malos/sinia; leaving out MD and calling it out only when anticipating needing it; and leaving the rain or panther up all the time (usually panther is perma-memmed). Cripple can be called in as needed, to use if I end up tanking.

Pre-battle
/mem i (idol)
...drop Idol

/mem p (panther)
...panther x 3 (pup, MT, self)
...panther other pet/melee (optional)

/mem m1
...replaces Idol with 'sinia
...replaces Panther with rain
...sisslak, NoP, and MD scribed

Debuff stage
...dispell on incoming pull
...'sinia
...bandolier TA to slow

Crowd control stage (if Adds)
MD
VP
clicky root

DPS stage
engage melee (bando hammer)
NoP
Sisslak
rain (later in battle)

Hehe, looking back at what I've typed up so far, I see that I didn't even use an /mem m2 set. So it seems I could cut down on most of the pre-battle spellswap hassle by simply making /mem m2 scribe in Idol and panther together. This would result in

Pre-battle
/mem m2
drop Idol
do panthers
/mem m1

Debuff stage (~7s)
Dispell (1.5s)
'sinia (2.4s)
TA (3s)

DPS stage (~7s)
engage melee (bando hammer)
NoP (2.3s)
gem refresh (2.25s)
Sisslak (2.3s)
rain (later as time permits)

This setup allows damage to start taking place about a tic into the battle. Ideally this would allow the Dots to run near full duration. And subtracting out a tic for the rain's cast time, it allows for 3-7 tics of shammy melee damage. It may be a good idea efficiency-wise to not melee, panther another instead, and use the time to regain mana. Perhaps even just use one DOT or lose the rain, but more panther targets? Maybe I just needed to think aloud here, but any insights are welcome.

The best solution is not either/or, but best-of.
Jaraman
 
Veteran -
 
Posts: 1293
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:56 pm
Server: The Rathe

Postby Jaraman » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:12 pm

Jaraman
 
Veteran -
 
Posts: 1293
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:56 pm
Server: The Rathe

Postby Ughbash » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:37 am

Tunares' Froggie Shaman,
Hipitey Hop [Watchkeepers]
Ughbash
 
Veteran --
 
Posts: 2147
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:04 pm
Server: tunare


Monk Main
Shaman - Alt/Box
Warrior - Alt/Box

Postby Sharok » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:29 am

Sharok
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:42 pm

Postby Unmei » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:47 am

Meh. With only ten spell sets, unless you're prepared to put some really serious work into setting them up, you'll be at least as flexible doing things manually.
User avatar
Unmei
 
Veteran --
 
Posts: 2031
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:11 pm
Server: 7th Hammer


Enchanter Main

Postby Jaraman » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:26 pm

Jaraman
 
Veteran -
 
Posts: 1293
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:56 pm
Server: The Rathe

Postby Unmei » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:49 pm

User avatar
Unmei
 
Veteran --
 
Posts: 2031
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:11 pm
Server: 7th Hammer


Enchanter Main

Postby Jaraman » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:15 pm

Jaraman
 
Veteran -
 
Posts: 1293
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:56 pm
Server: The Rathe

Postby Scowls » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:32 pm



User avatar
Scowls
 
Veteran -
 
Posts: 1913
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:57 pm
Server: Prexus (TerrisThule)

Postby Jaraman » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:30 pm

Jaraman
 
Veteran -
 
Posts: 1293
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:56 pm
Server: The Rathe

Postby Samanna » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:16 am

Samanna
 
Veteran -----
 
Posts: 6516
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:49 am
Server: Prexus


Shaman Main


Return to Spells & Abilities

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 26 guests