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The Spirit Realm • View topic - BP clicky feedback
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Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:29 pm
by Douglasone
I have a suggestion. A lot of people have HoT or something, give us something different. We already have lynx for grp DPS make out BP clicky an AE Lynx. We would be in major demand again. Let it last just as long. Think about it, Lynx does not proc nonstop but it would proc enough for a raid to increase its DPS a little. A short burst of DPS. Have a resue timer of 30 minutes so its not abuseable but we could have several times on raid. On a lot of raids in our guild, we use shms to cover heals where we do not have enough clerics. A 30 min retimer would not turn us into a super power burst for the raid on every fight but it would be nice to help people get through that tough spot in the clearing to the boss or for the boss itself but not both. If , as my son says the reuse timer is too long, cut it to 15 minutes. But I think an AE Lynx would be a major boost to shms and to the raids.

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:27 pm
by Dakota
Seeing as how the clicky for the UF bp is already in the spell dat, and it's the same click it's been since SoF, did Ngreth even bother reviewing the feedback that Waring said he asked for?

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:51 am
by Technics

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:31 pm
by Douglasone
Maybe it will be useful for a future bp. I still think an AE lynx is the way to go. We already have a number of heals, most of them fairly cheap considering the amount of mana and mana regen we have(or should have). The AE lynx would give a short burst of DPS help to every melee and any others that choose to swing a weapon, and be a huge help. It would still be less then 4 free wizzie nukes can put out normally. We had idol of malos for an AE malos, why not an AE lynx? Think of the help it would be on some of the hard raids, be a huge short term boost. I normally get 6-10 procs from a lynx when I am meleeing. Thats over 4k more damage with lynx3, even lynx2 is still gonna be a nice boost. Half our weapons or more and a number of other items already give us a group heal/HoT-not that its very good, but its something. Sony is not gonna give us enough healing to make us a threat to druids or clerics, so why not give us a burst dps ability. If sony had any thoughts of helping us in the healing department, they would drop the recast timer on Ancestral Intervention. It's a great spell, but when you heal the entire group back from 20% or less and the mob then AEs something massive right away again and you are all back at 20-30% life again, you gotta hope you can heal them all 1 at a time again-fast. So quit worrying about getting us another clicky small heal. We are not really the best at anything anymore-ignore alchemy for a sec- so we have AE slows, AE Heals with mgb Ancestral Aid, give us an AE to help melee out.

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:50 pm
by Dakota
As per another thread, it looks like that the BP click has been changed. From what people have gathered, it looks like a 3k rune, and when the rune fades, hits the shaman with a buff that modifies some aspect of poison-based spells by 50%. Whether it's damage, or spell haste, or mana cost, I don't know.

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:15 am
by Brohg
Sounds pretty terrible!

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:01 am
by riou

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:43 am
by Dakota
Obviously it's a bit early to tell, but maybe people who know how to read that block of code can answer. Does it stack with item focii? Bard aura/aria? Toxicity?

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:57 pm
by Brohg
Does it matter? How do you plan on getting that rune knocked off any time you have other players around?

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:56 pm
by Retron

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:01 pm
by Retron

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:42 pm
by Brohg

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:25 am
by Retron

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:49 am
by Ughbash

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:21 pm
by Dakota
How long does the rune last? And does the damage boost fire only if the rune is broken, or any time the rune wears off?

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:08 pm
by Zama

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:08 am
by Cellan
I have a shaman box so consider to me it's the helper class, and not the end-result class I play but I'd like to add my 2 cents.

I wouldn't support the AE Lynx type of buff or anything AE for the simple fact opposing why it was suggested .... to boost raid DPS for a bit. On the flip side, a grouping shaman just got a crappy clicky while the raiders got a clicky they can enjoy.

I'd much rather see an effect that is self-only or group only as that holds water in both grouping and raiding environment and it needs to be noticeable. 500hps of healing for a group heal is far from that, I'd sooner be clicking epic, casting Shade of Renewal or Ancestral Aid for that .... we don't need more group HoTs and PLEASE no more junk that makes our spells resisted less for 5 seconds for crying out loud.

Here are my ramblings of what might be nice:
1. +15% spell haste for 1 minute
2. group hundredhands effect or 20% overhaste for 5 ticks
3. debuff mobs melee dmg by 10% for 5 ticks
4. All DoTs already on a mob will crit for 2 ticks..... a buff on ourselves to affect our own DoTs
5. debuff a mob to eliminate it's slow mitigation for 5 ticks or 1 minute.
6. Group crazy-proc buff for 5 ticks that increases combat effects by 500 .... but I see alot of danger for having that around.

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:38 am
by Retron

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:19 am
by Dakota

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:01 am
by Cellan
Think the minimum mana cost might conflict of Gift of Mana AAs?

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:02 pm
by Dakota

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:19 pm
by Brohg
no, but it does with Aina/Languid Bite

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:18 am
by Dakota

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:25 am
by Retron

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:44 pm
by Dakota
The fact that it adds the raw damage though, as opposed to firing a proc, now makes me wonder again if it will work on dots after all, or just sting. Again, it's something that will warrant testing once Beta begins.

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:17 am
by Cellan

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:22 am
by Dakota

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:31 am
by Cellan

Re: BP clicky feedback

PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:37 am
by Retron