The Spirit Realm

Ngreth is looking for some feedback in what shaman desire in a BP clicky that would be similar in power to what other classes get.

100% crit rate on direct heals for 30 seconds.

Increase DoTs while the effect is up.

Snare

Here's what the other classes get - group only, I'm not a raider:

* Berserker: AE 60 AC debuff
* Beastlord: pet HoT (200/tick) and pet proc (1150 nuke and 690/tick DoT) for one minute
* Enchanter: 200 mana/tick group buff, 2 ticks
* Mage: uber pet buff for 2 ticks
* Wizard: 4 free nukes
* Necromancer: 12 second rat swarm pet
* Warrior: 400 hate defensive proc, 200 procrate. Lasts 2 minutes.
* Cleric: Decrease heal hate by 50% for 4 heals.
* Paladin: 152 heal and minor cure proc, lasts 2 minutes. 150% rate mod.
* Ranger: 982 point nuke proc, 150 procrate, lasts 5 ticks.
* SK: 410 point defensive nuke, 200 procrate. Max hits: 12
* Druid: Stackable spell haste, 25%, for nukes/heals. Max hits: 4
* Monk: Adds 100 to every melee hit for 1 minute. Max hits: 60
* Bard: Adds 232 to every nuke, AEPC!, min cast time 0.75 secs. 1 minute out of every 10. Max hits: 4
* Rogue: Proc, 150% proc mod, 2 mins out of every 10. Proc is 272 nuke, 82/tick DoT for 5 ticks.

Based on that, there are all sorts of options on offer. Note also that clerics and druids get just as rubbishy a click as we do.

I'd suggest the following options:

* A decent group heal, in the region of a druid group heal from 5 levels ago. Give them one of our old group HoTs in exchange as their click.
* A potent but shortlived debuff (either AC, DEX, decreased accuracy / dual weild / double attack or ATK)
* Clicky Bite of the Ukun
* Clicky Spirit Call or single but quite tough swarm pet
* Clicky melee booster, perhaps with Rabid Bear type stats for 5 ticks

I don't suggest anything to boost DoT crit rates or boost heal amounts as we have those already via Spires. A heal critrate booster is an option, but that's already available from 7th / Courage if needs be.

Forceful Rejuvenation

How about something that makes the mob forget much of what we've done to them,basicly a hate reducer that makes them forget most but not all of what we've done.I know we have some AA's that reduce the hate we generate but the're not enough.

Clicky Self only memblur. all mobs forget about us

You mean like bard's Fading Memories?

I don't see them giving it to us, but I could go for it if they did.

Clicky AE heal would rock

or dare i say a clicky root !

Listlessness!

Some kind of Cani % booster so when we click it we get a percentage based boost to Canni.

Monks have critical mend
Wizzers have Harvest

Only stands to reason we should get something like this also and wouldnt be too overbalancing

BP with clicky Ward of Malos (the idea of the "ward" being untargettable, like the weak regen AA Call of the Ancients)

Ward of Malos Effect
2: Decrease Cold Resist by 50
3: Decrease Magic Resist by 50
4: Decrease Poison Resist by 50
5: Decrease Fire Resist by 50

Jara familiar with new aa malo ""?

Resist Adjust: -200

2: Decrease Cold Resist by 66
3: Decrease Magic Resist by 66
4: Decrease Poison Resist by 66
5: Decrease Fire Resist by 66

usable every 30s, lasts 2m

I agree with Dakota and would like to keep some type of group heal (either direct, hot, or both) but it needs to be increased a lot as the current heal is useless. If that isn't possible then some type of group melee buff that stacks with champ and panther.

An extra epic 2.0 like effect would rock.

As a rogue playing a shammy box, I would love to see a clickie very along the lines of the 2.0 clickie. Something that boosts your groups attack, and makes us into a bunch of super DPS machines. Taking just the 2.0 click would be copy and paste, but there are other things that could be done with it...

I would love for this to be obtainable both by raiders and grouper, and it would help in both areas..

I copy & pasted the 2.0 click verbatim, with it's Recast Type. Not as an analogy, or a "something like this", I really think that'd be a fine thing to put on the raid bp. OoW was over four years and fifteen levels back.

Obviously I meant the mana conversion side would be the part that crit'd not the hp drain.

Maybe worth mentioning that on Beta one of the new cleric AAs gives them a 100% heal crit rate for 2 ticks - at a cost of doubling the mana.

May be dreaming, but a BP Click that offers a 30 second - 1 minute Spiritual Channeling effect would be awesome.

sounds worse than wizard 6-free-spell click

I would love to see either an Epic Click or a good group direct heal on the next BP.

I know I've commented a few times already on this thread. I think here I can sum up what I personally want.

I don't want a click that augments other forms of damage. We already have several of those, between our current epic click and the various spires. The melee-enhancing clicks are worthless to the shaman himself, and the spell-enhancing abilities, while nice, can end up going to waste if something bad happens and the shaman has to go full-burn heal mode fifteen seconds into clicking First Spire.

I also don't want a click that has anything to do with mana. While a canni-critter or short duration SC might be nice, mana is almost never an issue.

I'd rather have a click that either heals or damages directly. A heal augmenting click I'll be fine with, as long as it's not a copy of Second Spire. But we have enough clicks and abilities that either don't help us or boosts our DPS up from completely negligible to mostly negligible.

Clicky Cripple Upgrade

razzle dazzle

I love all these comments but they are not gonna help. You know full well what SONY will give us, the same clicky that is almost every piece of gear and shm usuable weapon for the last few expansions-that crappy little group HOT. My gods that HOT is not even worth the time casting and on some items I think it procs, but its the same one-drops in Steam Factory, through SoD and I think earlier. Now if I see that effect/clicky on an item I either just forget that item of do not make a hot key. Our spell group HOT is literally 5 times better. I do not think I have ever used it. I will believe we get a decent BP clicky when I actually see it. BTW I use the crystallos prismatic BP. I am not fighting for the SoD tier3 raid pieces yet, my guild are fighting like cats and dogs to get them and I am grabbing up all the other stuff from SoD to replace items and will go for the armor when ppl stop running the DKP bids thru the roof lol.

ae call of the wild, small radius. when a raid is falling apart this would be awesome.

What about a clicky that extends the duration of our epic click. Or an AA to extend it longer than it is at the moment that would be $$$