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Postby Draglin Stoneshield » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:26 pm

I would expect the main reason Paladins do not use hots is because we got tired of it bouncing. Since I am a paladin that is my reason for not using them often. In Raids I do use them when I am ramp tanking or doing group healing to as mention top people up but thats because I don't have a shammy in my group, Bigs and Vad keep asking to get moved from my groups I think, and no cleric so with a druid healing I know my HoT will land.

Does this mean I want them to stack? Yeah that would be great. Do I think they should? No chance. Its to much healing power. All 3 HoT casting class's landing at once would mean that things have to be balanced for future around THAT setup. So in groups that you have a single healer, or one person that casts a HoT then your going to be burning mana all the time since the healer will be having to over heal to compensate for the lack of HoT. Usually when I am grouping it is a group that has a Paladin, Wizard, shammy, Druid, chanter and Cleric. We have all 3 healing class's but no way do I want things balanced around that. Raid mobs will be crazy dps boost since every raid is sure to have those 3 class's. I much prefer being off tank or MA then be in the HoT rotation.

While we are at it remember that shammies already have a HoT that stacks, Lastitude when it procs. So that would be 4 HoT's that are healing instead of 1, or 2 if lastitude is cast on the tank.

I also beleive that shammies healing is based on slows which is why it is lower and druids is based of them have a DS to cast on the tank to compensate for the Cleric CH, as opposed to your HoT abilities mentioned above. Personally I would have though going after getting the lack of crits on shammy and druid CH spells would be a better choice but hey.
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Postby Beafly » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:57 am

ONLY 344 HP/SEC!!!! OMG You're right! I see the light, these should have stacked all along! It just must be a bug that they don't stack already and we need to petition a dev do get this fixed post-haste. This could even be a TOP TEN ISSUE! Waring, I can't believe you didn't notice this before! My healing efficiency in the presence of a cleric sucks now! I have no stackability and my group desirability is suffering!

While we're at it, I'd like Brells/Vim/Stalker to stack also! The poor rangers and beastlords, their core function is based on that attack! Why should they have to sacrifice the extra hitpoints from Brell to achieve maximum efficiency! It is an injustice! I mean, it's only an extra 500 hitpoints and 150 attack. Besides raid mobs hit for tons more than that anyway and our melee are pushing 4k attack buffed, so an extra 150 isn't really all that much.


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Postby ThraallFV » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:03 am

So i am hestiant to let 2-3 different main HoTs being able to heal a person at once. it just seems like it can have some interesting effects.

If it was having them both stacking but only the greater spell having an effect i would be all about that (think haste funky stacking). It is quite annoying that i have to wait until a cleric HoT runs out to be able to cast mine, or vice versa if i am higher level.

Having both HoTs healing would be very powerful. People have said that it shouldnt matter, after all direct heals "stack" but direct heals are a different beast. Direct heals are not mana effecient like HoTs are. And i think the mana effeciency of HoTs is what would make it over powering. I was one grouping fabled velk the other day and we wiped at about 8% because the cleric and i ran out of mana (that and some bad luck GRR!). If we had been able to stack our HoTs i think it would have made the mob much easier from a mana consumption standpoint.

overall i think to have them stacking but not both taking effect is fine and dandy but to have them both healing is a potential for lots of problems.
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