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Postby Sarthor » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:19 am

Persistent timers for spells with a long recast. When I mem champion, I want to be able to cast it right away, not have to wait a minute before I can. When you equip you epic, you can cast it right away, the same should be true for spells. I am sure this was mentioned as something that was being looked into, but I have not heard any more on it for a long time.
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Postby Samanna » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:05 pm

Yeah, not concerned here with other classes' self-only stuff.

Thanks for clarifying. I'll just drop that whole Daring/Bravery/Resolution/Heroism/Faith line from consideration then.
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Postby Samanna » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:54 pm

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And no, I did not calculate individual values for those +HP buffs which scale (for example: 360 (L52) to 450 (L70)} - I just used the base values, although I would put in individual values if I knew what each of them was.

Cleric lines are pure HP and HP/AC.
Druid line goes from HP/AC to HP/AC/HPRegen to HP/AC/ManaRegen.
Shaman line goes from anomalous HP/AC (go go Inner Fire; better heal/mana than the same level heal) to anomalous pure HP (Kraag/Altuna) to HP/Stats.
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Postby Samanna » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:04 pm

Wow, too bad I can't use the actual buff icons as the value markers.... lol
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Postby Tharkis » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:14 pm

Nice graphs, thank you for that work =) Shows what most of us have known all along, but in a very visual and concrete manner. bravo !!
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Postby Unmei » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:33 pm

I have at least a 90% certainty that it's just a flat scaling.
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Postby Samanna » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:21 pm

Added Naltron; it didn't change the points very much - Naltron only scales to 50. Hit refresh.

I used:
01 DRU: Skin like Wood; also RNG L7
01 SHM: Inner Fire; also BST L7
11 CLR: Symbol of Transal; also PAL L24
12 DRU: Skin like Rock; also RNG L21
21 CLR: Symbol of Ryltan; also PAL L33
24 DRU: Skin like Steel; also RNG L38
31 CLR: Symbol of Pinzarn; also PAL L46
32 SHM: Talisman of Tnarg; also BST L53
36 DRU: Skin like Diamond; also RNG L54
40 CLR: Temperance
40 SHM: Talisman of Altuna; also BST L58
41 CLR: Symbol of Naltron; also PAL L58
46 DRU: Skin like Nature; also RNG L59
46 SHM: Harnessing of Spirit
54 CLR: Symbol of Marzin; also PAL L63
55 SHM: Talisman of Kragg; also BST 62
57 DRU: Natureskin; also RNG L65
59 DRU: Protection of the Cabbage
60 CLR: Aegolism
60 SHM: Focus of Spirit
61 CLR: Symbol of Kazad
62 CLR: Virtue
62 SHM: Focus of Soul
63 DRU: Protection of the Nine
66 CLR: Symbol of Balikor
67 CLR: Conviction
68 DRU: Steeloak Skin
68 SHM: Wunshi's Focusing
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Postby Samanna » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:48 pm

Also, the +HP buffs typically MGBd at raids:

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Bah, I don't know why they don't say S1: Shaman. Maybe I'll tweak that later on. Shaman +HP buffs take slot 1. Ignore those 4s. Not there.

Also, these done with base values, I didn't feel like calculating the actual per-level HP values when they only change by up to 3 HP per level.
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Postby Grizlor » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:20 pm

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Postby Samanna » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:37 am

Here are simple trendlines applied to each dataset:

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That predicts where Priest +HP buffs are headed... hopefully, the trend will not continue like that.

With Warrior/Bard/Paladin/Shadowknight Anguish Quest armor having 360/355/355/355 HP and their BiC aug having 200 HP... wow, I need to trend that, too.
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Postby Samanna » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:00 am

Eh, nevermind the Buff/BP comparison.

Even though the best War BP + Aug is a 575 HP combo, I think very few people will actually have that, while every priest will probably get at least their best single target HP buff.
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