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The Spirit Realm • View topic - Work on those defensive AAs!!!!! proof they work at times

Work on those defensive AAs!!!!! proof they work at times

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Work on those defensive AAs!!!!! proof they work at times

Postby Valsuvious » Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:49 pm

Did a pickup on Txevu Zun last night and we had an incredibly shitty time with the charmable mob spawning. In fact, we got Zun from 100 to 9% without the chaosslayer ever spawning before we finally ran out of mana/people alive.

Anyways, here was a particular point of the fight. I was in the group with the main tank (Headboss) as well as the two rogues who were in charge of opening the door from banishings, not to mention two other weak geared characters, so I was doing a lot of healing/curing. The main point of the fight of course, is where I go unconscious.


[Sat Jan 28 17:51:18 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk says 'You will not evade me Valsuvious!'
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:18 2006] You have been summoned!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:19 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 2150 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:19 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:19 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 750 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:19 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:19 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk kicks YOU for 714 points of damage.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:20 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 1950 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:20 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:20 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 1450 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:20 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 750 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 2250 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 2650 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 750 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk kicks YOU for 714 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] Fishlip tells the raid, 'Remedy [ Valsuvious ]'
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:22 2006] You have been knocked unconscious!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:23 2006] Your spell is interrupted.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:23 2006] You are conscious again!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:23 2006] A kyv hunter tries to hit YOU, but misses!


[Sat Jan 28 17:51:23 2006] You have been knocked unconscious!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:24 2006] Headboss says, 'AE taunt activated around Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk!'
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:24 2006] Fishlip has healed you for 3258 points of damage.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:24 2006] You are conscious again!


[Sat Jan 28 17:51:24 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:24 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 750 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:24 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk goes on a RAMPAGE!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:24 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to kick YOU, but misses!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:25 2006] Kaerveek has healed you for 3958 points of damage.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:26 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:26 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:26 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk executes a FLURRY of attacks on Valsuvious!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:26 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:26 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:26 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to kick YOU, but misses!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] You sacrifice some of your health for the benefit of your party.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk says 'You will not evade me Valsuvious!'
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] You have been summoned!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk staggers in pain.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk executes a FLURRY of attacks on Valsuvious!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 750 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:27 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to kick YOU, but misses!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:29 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:29 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:29 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:31 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:31 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:31 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!


[Sat Jan 28 17:51:44 2006] You have been summoned!

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:44 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:44 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 1850 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:44 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 750 points of damage.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:46 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 2650 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:46 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 2250 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:46 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 2650 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:46 2006] You have been healed for 1640 hit points by your heal over time spell(s).
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:47 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk kicks YOU for 714 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:47 2006] You begin casting Ancestral Guard.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:47 2006] You call upon ancestral spirits for protection.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:48 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:48 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk executes a FLURRY of attacks on Valsuvious!
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:48 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk kicks YOU for 179 points of damage.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:49 2006] You have healed Valsuvious for 3693 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:49 2006] Your wounds heal.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:49 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 188 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:49 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 188 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 28 17:51:50 2006] Zun`Muram Tkarish Zyk hits YOU for 188 points of damage.

[Sat Jan 28 17:51:50 2006] Erts tells the group, 'recharged that fd ring vals? lmao'



In other words, in a span there in the middle, he hit me twice out of a possible 19 times, and both were for only 750 dmg. I do have max defensive AAs as well as an ID3 item, maxed avoidance and I think that at the time I was sitting somewhere just over 2700ac.
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Postby Beafly » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:37 pm

Yay for defensive AA's!

Though, I have mine and I'm pretty sure Zun would hand me my ass.

Oh, yeah ID3, max avoidance and 2700 ac (bunch of min hits in there I notice) would help.
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Postby Valsuvious » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:51 pm

Yeah, I did pop AG late, but it was cause it just popped mid summon. I kept sitting there waiting for it and it finally came right when I cast it.

But yeah, I had a pretty big role in the raid at that time (explained earlier, with keeping the group up and making sure the rogues were cured and healed) that I didn't want to die so my first thought was pop heal on myself when I got summoned. He just interupted me a few times unfortunetly.

The reason that we are doing pickups on him is because we are one of the top guilds in the game, and there is no way that our guild is gonna go back and kill him again in a normal raid setting. He is important to many of us cause a lot of us finished up all of our BiC quest up until Txevu Zun (back when we killed him, he rarely dropped a single piece, much less more than one) so in the guild prior to pickups, we had officially completed 4 BiCs (1 of them was mine) while two other people had finished them in other guilds before becoming a member of my guild. So, the pickups are being conducted, inviting members from other guilds on the server (well.. minus assent it seems, although that might just be a fluke) usually from those guilds that have killed him or would like a chance to get the txevu bic piece. It's run mostly by Headboss, who is main tank on him, and who I can prob keep alive by myself on him assuming he doesn't banish him. The AE from Zun does hardly noticeable dmg to my mana, it's more to my hps that I notice.
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Postby Samanna » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:58 am

Actually, there's some doubt about the accuracy of the GoD ones, it has been suggested that they actually return between 1 and 1.5 percent per rank rather than 2.5 percent per rank, which would affect the return per AA spent as well as the overall return per AA and total return, making them even more expensive in AAs spent per bit of avoidance/mitigation, but yeah, we think DoD and OoW ones bear the same potency.

Diminishing returns - yes, I don't think anyone questions that. Still worth the expenditure? That'll be up to the individual to determine. I got my max avoidance early, but have been getting other things before going back to complete mitigation.
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