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Druid Burn or max dps on a fight

Postby birdman » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:55 pm

Figuring all DPS AA's are done, including twin cast and black wolf. What would be the best burn spell lineup.
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Re: Druid Burn or max dps on a fight

Postby Aldier » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:05 pm

I think the best sequence would be to alternate Winter's Flare and Summer Solstice with Nature's Searing Wrath whenever it refreshes. Use NSW just before a twincast so that you are going with the 2 nukes as fast as you can during Twincast and not using time on the dot. Black wolf should be running from the start of when you really want to burn to increase mana regen, decrease mana costs for detri, and increase crit rate. Epic would also be best to use just before Twincast if you still use it. The effect will be deminished greatly at these levels, but it could still provide a small boost.
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Re: Druid Burn or max dps on a fight

Postby Brohg » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:14 am

You use no dots, Aldier?
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Re: Druid Burn or max dps on a fight

Postby Tanom » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:33 am

I would do the Winter's Blaze line as my spam twisting with Equinox Burn line with the recent patch, throw in Sunsear and Horde line while making an effort to throw in Nature's Burning Wrath line (you can also replace Horde with NBW because this will be draining you greatly). Once the mob reaches 35% begin to use both Reaping and Harvesting Inferno (They are not linked yet) along with Twincast. This should make you go OOM fast but hell are you putting out some dps hehe. I would use Spirit of the Black Wolf after you debuff the mob with Hand of Ro and Chillvapor Breath line then again when you start using the inferno spells (this depends on your hastened lycan soul AAs). By the way if the mob is a construct model switch out Winter's Blaze and Equinox Burn lines with both the SoF and SoD Annihilate the Unnatural line spells as you get 32k procs from both PLUS the benefit of 1.5 Second casts.
Mind this is the DPS set up I use on a raid mob and before this patch it was slightly different and got slightly under 300k damage output with 1060 DPS with only DD spell crit AA up to 9 I believe with only a few DoT crit AAs. I did not make my druid a dps druid but a healer so I dont have my focus for DPS updated either.
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Re: Druid Burn or max dps on a fight

Postby Tanom » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:19 am

I forgot I also use my Storm Strike and Buu Buu AAs
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Re: Druid Burn or max dps on a fight

Postby Aldier » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:27 am

Since the dot cast times were just reduced, I will have to reconsider how to best stack up the damage.

But also, spell slots will begin to limit you at this rate.

Winter's Flare
Summer Solstice
Reaping Inferno
Harvesting Inferno
Nature's Searing Wrath
Twincast
Sunsinge dot
Horde dot
Puravida
Survival

That is 10 spells without any debuffs, any additional heals (group heal, reknit), no wild growth, and for an ideal burn, the mob would need to be fully debuffed first.
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Re: Druid Burn or max dps on a fight

Postby Bruddarr » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:24 pm

Pretty much what Tanom said.

Soloing in Tosk the other day (still 82 so i used SoF spells mind you)

Hand of Ro
coldwhisper breath (chillvapor line)

Once those are done..
Horde line
Sunsear(sunsinge)
NBW
Twist Winter's blaze line with Equinox line until your Dots need refreshing , also storm strike when available.
Twincast (Haven't gotten this yet)
Harvest

I wasn't aware that Reaping/harvest were not linked which would indeed make them powerful tools to burn at the end. However if they do link them, i Feel as if these 2 spells wouldn't be nearly as useful as they used to be since all our other nukes are fairly fast casting now.

To optimize DPS you might even want to throw skin to mulch/flora on there but having to cast 3 debuffs does slow your DPS up at the start.

Anyway, with that lineup i mentioned above (minus twincast) , I was able to kill surprisingly fast in tosk with almost ALL SoF spells. I estimated the mobs at 200K~ hp, rough guess . However, I did notice i was burning through mana like butter so be aware of what your mana pools can and cannot do.
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Re: Druid Burn or max dps on a fight

Postby gnugnu » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:33 pm

I figured i could add some numbers to that post.

Twincast really owns and change a lot especially when you use it with others dps tools (Druid epic, First Spire, Black Wolf or 7th Veteran aa).

Here is a parse i got using twincast & chaining Winters's Flare Rk 2, Summer Soltice Rk 2 & StormStrike aa

Note this is a very short fight and i used 7th veteran aa on it so it not the dps we will have often but looking at the numbers made say "Wow !" because even if i expected a better dps than usual, it was way more than i thougt.
Note also that it was a 1minute fight only on which i nuked for about 47seconds (time to debuff, let mt place mob etc)

Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council in 58s, 5115k @88182dps
1 --- Random Wiz 731k @14913dps
2 --- Random Ber 474k @8626dps
3 --- Random Rog 376k @6594dps
4 --- Random Rog 348k @6109dps
5 --- Random Rog 302k @5399dps
6 --- Me ! 280k @6513dps

Note the dps of the wizard who used 7th & twincast & mana resurgence too.

Detail:

[Wed Nov 05 23:11:51 2008] You begin casting Intensity of the Resolute.
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:52 2008] You begin casting Twincast Rk. III.
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:54 2008] You begin casting Winter's Flare Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:56 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 12173 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:56 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (12173)
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:56 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 5112 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:56 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 11173 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:56 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (11173)
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:56 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 13576 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:56 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (13576)
[Wed Nov 05 23:11:58 2008] You begin casting Summer Solstice Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:00 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 15501 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:00 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (15501)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:00 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 15384 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:00 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (15384)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:01 2008] You begin casting Storm Strike.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:01 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 3567 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:01 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (3567)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:01 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 2527 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:01 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (2527)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:02 2008] You begin casting Winter's Flare Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:04 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 10008 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:04 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (10008)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:04 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 10956 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:04 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (10956)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:04 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 10745 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:04 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (10745)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:04 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 12350 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:04 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (12350)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:07 2008] You begin casting Summer Solstice Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:08 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 14009 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:08 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (14009)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:09 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 13651 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:09 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (13651)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:11 2008] You begin casting Winter's Flare Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:13 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 10400 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:13 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (10400)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:13 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 11492 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:13 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (11492)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:13 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 4624 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:13 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 5515 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:15 2008] You begin casting Summer Solstice Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:17 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 12220 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:17 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (12220)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:17 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 13919 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:17 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (13919)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:19 2008] You begin casting Winter's Flare Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:21 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 9916 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:21 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (9916)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:21 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 4121 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:23 2008] You begin casting Summer Solstice Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:25 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 5384 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:27 2008] You begin casting Winter's Flare Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:29 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 10676 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:29 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (10676)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:29 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 4013 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:31 2008] You begin casting Summer Solstice Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:33 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 13025 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:33 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (13025)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:34 2008] You begin casting Storm Strike.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:35 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 3567 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:35 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (3567)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:36 2008] You begin casting Winter's Flare Rk. II.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:38 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 9432 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:38 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (9432)
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:38 2008] Gnugnu hit Rebthik, Arbiter of the Council for 11036 points of non-melee damage.
[Wed Nov 05 23:12:38 2008] You deliver a critical blast! (11036)
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