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The Spirit Realm • View topic - 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug
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2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:30 am
by Zann
I was recently luck enough to obtain a . Which is a massive improvement over what I have owned previously (bearing in mind that the Pally is a non-raiding boxed alt - but still loving every second).

I was wondering if there are any easy obtainable Type 4 augs that will improve the damage rating of the Sword. I am not Crystollios (sp?) flagged and my boxed group can handle the Loping Plains skeletons level of difficulty without any problems. Any ideas?

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:19 am
by Brohg
There are none.

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:40 am
by Kakimor
aug from the Unspeakable in Ashengate :)

Purified Lava Vein Item Glossary
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE AUGMENTATION
Augmentation type: 4 8
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Fire DMG: 3
Effect: Fiery Strike VI (Combat, Casting Time: Instant

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:21 am
by Brohg
+elemental damage is vastly different than +damage. That's without a doubt the most damaging augment he can get for his 2h, but only because they've never made proc augs appropriate to 2h in other content.

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:14 pm
by Vasei

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:34 pm
by Normy
I don't have the hard numbers, and my understanding isn't the greatest, but here is the gist.

Its like extra damage, but not factored like the actual damage of the weapon. And I've been told that it can be, of a sort, resisted. Like +3 Fire damage won't come much into effect against fire elementals, but it will against ice giants. From what I was told (those with better info can correct this if needs be) but its like factoring an extra hit with a much lower damage weapon and adding that to what you hit for, instead of the direct factor of adding to the damage of the weapon.

A much bigger DPS gain is from direct damage to a weapon, but they are all type 8 augs I believe.

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:24 pm
by Abazzagorath
Elemental works just like regular damage, completely, except it can be resisted based off that resist. That's all it is.

The ashengate aug is the best 2her type 4 aug for paladins other than the crystallos one.

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:22 pm
by Hulkling
errr nevermind, was gonna say the +4 fire dmg aug in riftseekers, but its type 8 :?

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:18 am
by Brohg
Derail time! I think it's a balance issue for the classes that use 2h for primary dps (ber, pal, sk) that there aren't better proc augs specific to 2h. A 300 proc, especially a phatty lifetap, would seriously contend with Lava Vein for dps on 2h if such was available. All the proc augments out there are balanced for dualwielders using two of them, though, so the only alternative is one of the two DSK 200s :/

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:22 pm
by Hulkling
aye Devs actually acknowledged this issue in TBS when powersources that gave procs had to be changed to fit better with 2H weapons. Unfortunately, the DoN type 4 augs probably won't ever see a retune.

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:12 am
by Luthair
Also, unless something has changed, or my memory is worse than I thought, but 2-handed weapons proc more frequently than 1-handed weapons in primary (or of course secondary, which procs even less.)

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:22 pm
by Brohg
I've never heard anything of the sort, Luthair

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:52 pm
by dindaur
if you are not crystallos flagged and want a damage aug try the LDON raid you will need friends but the aug is 5 damage

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:22 pm
by knytul
which btw isnt type 4 Dindaur...its type 8 only

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:37 pm
by Luthair

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:51 am
by Brohg
I'd like a source on that, please.

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:21 am
by Hulkling
aye I've never heard that either. AFAIK all weapon procs are base 2PPM, unless specifically modified in the SPDAT (old school cleric hammers for instance).

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:27 pm
by Luthair
Well, here's another post referring to the difference between Primary & Secondary @ TSW: http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum/sh ... hp?t=18203

If I get the chance over the weekend I'll see if I can't parse my warrior alt.

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:50 pm
by Brohg
and?

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:48 am
by knytul
Anyways, before these 2 get this thread WAY off track.

The only Pure Damage 2h type 4 aug comes from Crystallos: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=73874

Besides that, the only things your gonna get are a few Elemental ones like this one for example.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=52345 From Ashengate

After these, your basically forced to resort to stuff like DoN augs (lifesap2, CS4)

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:36 am
by Luthair

Re: 2HS Type 4 Damage Aug

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:39 pm
by Clamford