The Spirit Realm

Here are some of my parSes for you to check out.

The fights from log 3 on are more normal. I was really rusty the first 2 fights. I have been max AA/xp for a long time heheh.
I am posting from when i cast the first dot to when I get XP. Seems I can't break 900 DPS without lucky crits, magic/disease focus, nukes, or AAs. All mobs I fought were even con. My magelo link is below. (Also note, I would be able to keep this pace up for a full XP AA cast without any issue.) Last 2 fights i changes some stuff up but still got the same result.

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I played around with my cast rotation, and wow ... lo I was blind all this time. Just by casting my magic dots first, followed by poison, and only then tossing on 1 disease dot, I've added 75-100 dps on my rotation. Here's a parse of my last fight (not by best). But I can keep every dot running without missing a single tick on any, and it's noticable how much quicker things are dying. Once I get the 74 and 75 dot and start using BA6 tribute, I think I'll be able to break 800 dps.

EDIT
This fight was 675 dps from first dot to last.

[Tue Nov 06 06:34:39 2007] a firemaw tiger glares at you threateningly -- looks like it would wipe the floor with you!
[Tue Nov 06 06:34:41 2007] You begin casting Putrid Decay.
[Tue Nov 06 06:34:44 2007] A firemaw tiger's skin becomes slimy and translucent.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:01 2007] You begin casting Virulent Paralysis.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:03 2007] A firemaw tiger sneezes violently.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:04 2007] You begin casting Malos.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:08 2007] A firemaw tiger looks very uncomfortable.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:09 2007] You begin casting Summon Drogmor.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:09 2007] Your Giant Black Drum begins to glow.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:12 2007] Spell set DoT2 loaded.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:12 2007] You forget Malos.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:12 2007] You forget Putrid Decay.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:13 2007] Beginning to memorize Breath of Ternsmochin...
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:14 2007] You have finished memorizing Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:15 2007] Beginning to memorize Spiritual Serenity...
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:16 2007] You have finished memorizing Spiritual Serenity.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:17 2007] You begin casting Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:19 2007] A firemaw tiger is cursed by a malevolent juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:20 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1550 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:23 2007] You begin casting Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:25 2007] A firemaw tiger is wrapped in vengeful spirits.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:26 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 753 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:26 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 583 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:28 2007] You begin casting Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:31 2007] A firemaw tiger's soul has been cursed.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:32 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 849 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:32 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1340 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:32 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1002 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:34 2007] You begin casting Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:37 2007] A firemaw tiger's veins turn a vile shade of green.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:38 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 805 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:38 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 601 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:38 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 448 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:38 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 761 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:40 2007] You begin casting Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:43 2007] A firemaw tiger's blood pulses with the blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:44 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 753 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:44 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1236 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:44 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 475 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:44 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 741 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:44 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 526 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:46 2007] You begin casting Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:49 2007] A firemaw tiger screams as torment pumps through their veins.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:50 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 849 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:50 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 595 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:50 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 470 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:50 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1534 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:50 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 486 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:50 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 341 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:52 2007] Your spell fizzles!
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:53 2007] You begin casting Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] A firemaw tiger begins to retch black fog.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1580 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] Your Juju spell has worn off of a firemaw tiger.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 647 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 448 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 682 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 522 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 378 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:56 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 316 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:57 2007] You begin casting Cannibalization.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:59 2007] Idracab hit Idracab for 4057 points of non-melee damage.
[Tue Nov 06 06:35:59 2007] Your body aches as your mind clears. You have taken 4057 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:00 2007] You begin casting Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:02 2007] A firemaw tiger is cursed by a malevolent juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:02 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1654 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:02 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 687 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:02 2007] Your Curse of Sisslak spell has worn off of a firemaw tiger.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:02 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 506 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:02 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 701 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:02 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 472 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 378 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 322 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:06 2007] You begin casting Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] A firemaw tiger is wrapped in vengeful spirits.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 842 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 647 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 448 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] Your Bane spell has worn off of a firemaw tiger.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 706 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 481 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 381 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:08 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 345 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:11 2007] You begin casting Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:14 2007] A firemaw tiger's soul has been cursed.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:14 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 768 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:14 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 635 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:14 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 488 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:14 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 717 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:14 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 499 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:14 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 348 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:14 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 304 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:15 2007] You can use the ability Virulent Paralysis again in 0 minute(s) 46 seconds.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:18 2007] You begin casting Ancestral Bargain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:20 2007] Idracab hit Idracab for 1042 points of non-melee damage.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:20 2007] Ancestral spirits tear through your body. You have taken 1042 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:21 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 805 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:21 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1306 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:21 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 484 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:21 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 613 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:21 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 472 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:21 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 345 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:21 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 325 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:23 2007] You begin casting Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:26 2007] A firemaw tiger's veins turn a vile shade of green.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:27 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1492 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:27 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1224 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:27 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 940 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:27 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 707 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:27 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 468 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:27 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 385 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:27 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 325 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:29 2007] You begin casting Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:32 2007] A firemaw tiger's blood pulses with the blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:33 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 849 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:33 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1294 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:33 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 510 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:33 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 688 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:33 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 513 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:33 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 398 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:33 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 307 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:35 2007] You begin casting Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:37 2007] A firemaw tiger screams as torment pumps through their veins.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:38 2007] You can use the ability Virulent Paralysis again in 0 minute(s) 23 seconds.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:39 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 753 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:39 2007] Your Juju spell has worn off of a firemaw tiger.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:39 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 624 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:39 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 470 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:39 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 767 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:39 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 517 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:39 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 371 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:39 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 672 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:40 2007] You begin casting Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:43 2007] A firemaw tiger is cursed by a malevolent juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:45 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 842 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:45 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1212 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:45 2007] Your Curse of Sisslak spell has worn off of a firemaw tiger.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:45 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1020 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:45 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 759 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:45 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 531 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:45 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 348 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:45 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 307 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:46 2007] You begin casting Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:48 2007] A firemaw tiger is wrapped in vengeful spirits.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:51 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 812 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:51 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1294 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:51 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 466 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:51 2007] Your Bane spell has worn off of a firemaw tiger.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:51 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 676 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:51 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 481 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:51 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 348 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:51 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 295 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:52 2007] You begin casting Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:54 2007] A firemaw tiger's soul has been cursed.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:55 2007] You begin casting Greater Immobilize.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:55 2007] Your Scaled Avatar's Leggings begins to glow.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:57 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 857 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:57 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 1190 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:57 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 506 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:57 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 706 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:57 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 540 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:57 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 716 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:57 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 295 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:58 2007] Your Virulent Paralysis spell has worn off of a firemaw tiger.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:58 2007] A firemaw tiger adheres to the ground.
[Tue Nov 06 06:36:59 2007] You begin casting Ancestral Bargain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:02 2007] Idracab hit Idracab for 1042 points of non-melee damage.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:02 2007] Ancestral spirits tear through your body. You have taken 1042 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 761 damage from your Juju.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 693 damage from your Curse of Sisslak.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 457 damage from your Bane.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 614 damage from your Nectar of Pain.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 513 damage from your Blood of Yoppa.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 371 damage from your Blood of Saryrn.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] A firemaw tiger has taken 298 damage from your Breath of Ternsmochin.
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] You gain experience!!
[Tue Nov 06 06:37:03 2007] You have slain a firemaw tiger!

I was doing these parces next to a necro friend. He casts 5 dots on a mob and that includes snare.

I cast 9 dots and that doesn't include root/maloxxx/PD.

Juju II
Curse of Sisslak
Bane
Nectar of Agony II
Nectar of Pain
Vengeance of Ahnkaul II
Breath of Wunshi
Breath of Ultor
epic 1.0 (Curse of Spirits)

My necro friend thinks i am crazy.

It's true, that is without a doubt the start of the fight (and when any parses should start to occur). Melee dps jump in and boom ... the damage starts immediately. We have to PD, run, VP, malos, THEN start laying the damage on.

Of course, then the numbers don't look so good. It's much better to count from first tick to last! *grin*

Looking at one of my fights, the parser shows:

Fight Time: 1:43
Damage: 72,893
DPS: 707.7

But looking at the log, I started the pull 15s before the first DoT tick (MD+VP+Malo+cast first dot) - so my true DPS is actually:

Fight time: 1:58
Damage: 72,893
DPS: 612.5

Almost a 100 dps drop!

The only reason I mentioned it is so we are all on the same page as to what shaman root rot DPS actually looks like. The last thing we want is for some moron from another class to get pissed off at our leet root rot dps, and start a shit storm over it. I don't think i could handle our mediocre dots, being any more marginalized.

An interesting thing with dots is that there isn't much abillity to go 'beyond'. By that I mean - if you're a melee class, you can get better weapons, more haste, more attack, more aas, whatever, and your dps can take a HUGE jump. I'm sure the melee dps range can be from 400 to 1500 dps across all levels of gear.

Whereas with the shaman class, the range is probably 600 to 950 dps. So even undergeared shamans (ie. me) will be close-ish to raid geared shamans in terms of solo dps. Compare that to melee dps - a raid geared monk will do vastly more damage then a bazaar geared class.

So shamans do decent solo dps damage ... but they'll never do exceptional or even above average damage. Just solid, middle of the road dps.

Plus we have extra disadvantages other classes don't have. We need an open area to pull and, more importantly, a 'camp spot'. For 2 minutes, we're sitting our asses in the same spot with Mr Mob twiddling his thumbs in front of us. If you get an add ... time to gate (or hope root works). Pretty much any other class that can solo (rogues need not apply) are mobile, and can drag mobs away to a safe location while still doing damage.

Still, I love the soloing power of the shaman class. In a group, we might do 150 dps (not very mana efficiently either), but we have a lot of other things to do as well. But in a solo enviornment, our dps and power is ... in my opinion ... acceptable. I see the shaman class as the rhino of soloing classes. We won't get there fast, and you need a straight line to do it, but nothing can stop us if we get up a head of steam.

Purely for fun, I parsed myself on a couple of fights in Atiiki, the place I visit most days to burn Lesson.

I pull with VP, cast PD then lay on two nectars and Vengeance, then Juju and Curse. With an AE3 potion running, I renew the DoTs at between 50 and 60%, then the mob dies before the second batch wear off. It's not the most efficient way of doing it, but it works. Bear in mind killing in 2 minute intervals is more important to me than outright DPS.

Anyway, canni-ing when I can and with a resist on Juju, I ended up just under 700 DPS. My foci are:

Affliction Efficiency 6 (can't beat up to 25% mana savings)
Burning Affliction 6 (for magic DoTs) and
Vergalid's Blood (30% poison focus)


When it comes to yellow-conning nameds in Atiiki I have to go into "DPS mode" - less canni, more DoTs.

I pull with VP, debuff with PD then swap in a disease DoT. I land 2 of the three poisons, cast the disease, swap it out for another disease, cast the 3rd poison DoT then the 2nd disease. That's then swapped out for Yoppa, I cast the two magic DoTs, then Yoppa, then renew the other poison DoTs. It sounds far more complicated than it is, really.

Anyway, that allows me to push towards 850 DPS. I'd imagine a raider with 60% foci could reach 1K DPS without too many problems, in all honesty.

Should we treat this like Project Alpha?

Your dps goes way up if you kill 2-3 mobs at a time.