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The Spirit Realm • View topic - Throwing potions

Throwing potions

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Throwing potions

Postby WaringMcMarrin » Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:26 pm

Has anyone done much throwing of potions since TSS was launched? Wondering how many are worth using now.


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Postby Hecude Poison`Blood » Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:56 pm

could we possible get a sharpened stick to poke the devs with the question of making the potions use the throwers lvl instead of there own so there not completely useless. :twisted:

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Postby Brohg » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:10 pm

There's a "ripple effect" blocking swift resolution of this issue, Hecude. Currently potions work just like every other item in the game. Changing how potions work would, reflexively, change how every other item in the game works. Bad moon rising, earthquakes & lightning, mass chaos, frogs from the sky, Utah turns blue, Tharkis decides to be a man, etc & et al.
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Postby WaringMcMarrin » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:11 pm

Also then what would be the point of the higher level versions of the potion if they all worked the same.
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Postby Hecude Poison`Blood » Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:15 am

there is no point to them atm b/c of the casting lvl. if this was removed or changed they would be useful possibly.
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Postby Veril » Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:56 am

Potions used as buffs work fine with the casting level of the potion being determined by the level of the potion (I-X). Potion Buffs last a decent duration 30 mins or so. Potion buffs provide meaningful and useful benefits to the person using them.

Potions being used as debuffs don't work the same way though. You use one potion per mob. Over a 30 min period, I would want to use 30 snare potions (one per mob) vs. one single Mana regen potion, (or perhaps two damage shield potions.)

Low level buffs are worthwhile, Damage Shield V is buyable in component form and gives a 25 point damage shield. That's a very reasonable contribution. A mob hits 30 times before it dies, that 900 damage per mob, and over a 15 min period (1 mob per min) that is 13500 damage over the duration of the potion.

There are to me two ways to fix the problem:

1) Increase the yield of the harmful potions to 20 per instead of 1 per. That's the simplest fix and would make it worthwhile producing them.

2) Have harmful potions use the level of the thrower for resistance purposes, and scale the effects of the potion according to the level of the potion. The already existing required and reccomended levels on the potions provide the means to stop low level characters from using these potions to gain an unfair advantage.
Snare could be 5% per level.
Darkness would be -5 or 10atk per level.
DoT's would be 200 damage per level overe the duration of the DoT etc

It's not difficult, although it does of course take time to do this.
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Postby Kumeldar » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:41 pm

On the bright side, there is a new discussion on the warrior boards about using the low level snare potions as an aggro tool. Even though the snare gets resisted it seems to work like a resisted cast spell, where you still get the aggro from it. So it could possibly be a nice bit of extra aggro for warriors, especially those that are pulling. Shaman just need to start pushing them as an aggro tool.
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