Posted:
Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:50 pm
by Aristein
I totally agree. The difficulty of producing these potions does not pass the laugh test. In fact, it is sort of a slap in the face considering that Cloudy Potions are cheaper, stackable and vendor purchased easily in PoK. Plus, the fact that Cloudy Potions are just regular Invis is next to meaningless given that they are Instant cast. They are essentially the same as an improved invis for any decent player paying attention.
We can go to Seb and farm 40 lilies in a reasonable amount of time, allowing us to make Clarity Pots, etc.
But, to make an improved invis potion, we have to go to one of the least desirable zones in the game, and farm a rare item that takes an inordinate amount of time to stock up on.
For years Alchemy has been the red-headed step child of tradeskills. I recall last year when we were promised that we would be getting an Improved Invis potion to make that would not be next to insane to produce for our guilds/friends etc. From my perspective, we're still waiting...
Posted:
Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:42 pm
by Ngreth Thergn
I have been doing it based on level of the mob, not class (class is not important to me for this)
By expanding the level of mobs it drops from, it will be hitting other "classes" of the mob.
The level range WAS 55 to 60
I expanded it to 53 to 60
To check I did 3 full re-spawns of ssra. Where you see "re-pop" is where I made all current mobs go away then come back "randomly" (as they normally would over the course of being killed by players) I only cut out a few things that would give away the commands (not that you can use them... but no reason to put them out there either)
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] * Sending item tracking request to zone server.
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Searching zone for any loaded items matching 'exceptional'...
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on #Slakiz_the_Malignant00
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Lich13
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 25 on an_imperial_guard15
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on an_imperial_guard04
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Lich12
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_Shissar_Lich09
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_temple_skirmisher32
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Templar06
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_temple_skirmisher26
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 25 on a_Shissar_Arch_Warlock04
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_temple_skirmisher17
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Spirit_Destroyer04
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_temple_skirmisher09
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Spirit_Destroyer02
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:14 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Priest03
[Tue Jun 27 09:33:32 2006] You say, 'Repop'
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] * Sending item tracking request to zone server.
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Searching zone for any loaded items matching 'exceptional'...
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on #Slakiz_the_Malignant00
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on #Klazaz_the_Slayer00
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Disciple07
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on an_imperial_guard20
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on an_imperial_guard19
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on an_imperial_guard14
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_Shissar_Tormentor01
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_temple_skirmisher35
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Arch_Arcanist06
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Arch_Arcanist05
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_temple_skirmisher29
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_Shissar_Arch_Arcanist04
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 25 on a_temple_skirmisher19
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_temple_skirmisher12
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:41 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Spirit_Destroyer00
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:42 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Arch_Warlock00
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:42 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Priest00
[Tue Jun 27 09:37:48 2006] You say, 'Repop'
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] * Sending item tracking request to zone server.
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Searching zone for any loaded items matching 'exceptional'...
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on #Slakiz_the_Malignant00
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 25 on #Disciple_Yelwinz00
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_Shissar_Disciple07
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Disciple01
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on an_imperial_guard10
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Lich11
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_Shissar_Lich06
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Spirit_Destroyer13
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_temple_skirmisher26
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_Shissar_Templar07
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_temple_skirmisher25
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Templar06
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_Shissar_Lich01
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_Shissar_Spirit_Destroyer09
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Templar05
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_temple_skirmisher19
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 25 on a_Shissar_Templar04
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_temple_skirmisher16
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Spirit_Destroyer04
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_temple_skirmisher11
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 23 on a_temple_skirmisher08
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 24 on a_Shissar_Spirit_Destroyer00
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_temple_skirmisher00
[Tue Jun 27 09:40:20 2006] Item #96915, Exceptional Shissar Blood: slot 22 on a_Shissar_Priest02
So it is out there. And maybe this will give you a better idea of what mobs drop it.
Posted:
Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:00 pm
by Brohg
har, about 1/4th of those are guards in raid encounters
It's all good, I agree that fixed invis potions should be rare, but that's pretty funny!
Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:23 pm
by Brohg
I don't think the situation is all that bad. Anyone who really really wants fixed invis can buy summoned stones from a magician. Woot for class interdependence and such. Non-no rent potions are powerful novelty, imo. It's fine that they're very rare. I think the exceptional[ly rare] bloods are more a problem on silly things like group shrink.